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I broke my Pizza Party Pizzone ... and here's how I fixed it
« on: November 07, 2017, 04:33:01 PM »
Just in case anyone else does the same silly thing as me.   I spent years carrying my bikes on top of my car and never did the dreaded drive into the garage with the bikes still on top.

This past weekend I was wheeling my Pizzone into the garage and forgot to take the chimney off and did a number on the chimney support collar.  As you can see from the first two pictures, the outer skin of the oven was pushed down pretty good in a couple places and the collar which was attached by two rivets had a great deal of motion so the chimney would be unattractively leaning.  Still functional, but leaning.

I was able to find a piece of 6" adjustable pipe collar at Menards and scribed the outline on the new collar and cut it to fit.  Then cut off the top of the adjustable collar to be the correct height.  It's now pretty rock solid and I'm happy with it.  Am going to think on it a day or two before I seal it up with some high-temperature silicone sealant.

Any comments or suggestions for improvement before I wrap the project up?  I'll probably snip off the excess strap from the clamp.

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Re: I broke my Pizza Party Pizzone ... and here's how I fixed it
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2017, 05:43:41 PM »
The one other thing I'm considering is putting a couple pop rivets in the overlap.  That way I don't have to worry about the hose clamp connector working loose.  I could even remove that for a much cleaner look after the rivets are in...
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Re: I broke my Pizza Party Pizzone ... and here's how I fixed it
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2017, 09:41:45 AM »


The one other thing I'm considering is putting a couple pop rivets in the overlap.  That way I don't have to worry about the hose clamp connector working loose.  I could even remove that for a much cleaner look after the rivets are in...

Will that hose clamp get hot? I think most hose clamps are galvanized and you don't want to get galvanized metal hot. The zinc can give off a toxic fume. I dont know if pop rivets are galvanized.

Do you think stainless steel self tapping screws would work?

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Re: I broke my Pizza Party Pizzone ... and here's how I fixed it
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2017, 10:23:04 AM »
Silly question; Can't you just pull the dents out and straighten what needs to be straightened?

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Re: I broke my Pizza Party Pizzone ... and here's how I fixed it
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2017, 11:40:26 AM »
Silly question; Can't you just pull the dents out and straighten what needs to be straightened?

To pull the dents out would have required cutting the rivets on the existing collar in order to get anything under the skin to pull the dents out.  It seemed a lot easier just to put a supporting collar on.  Took me all of a 1/2 hour to cut the new collar. 
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Re: I broke my Pizza Party Pizzone ... and here's how I fixed it
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2017, 11:41:45 AM »

Will that hose clamp get hot? I think most hose clamps are galvanized and you don't want to get galvanized metal hot. The zinc can give off a toxic fume. I dont know if pop rivets are galvanized.

Do you think stainless steel self tapping screws would work?

The pop rivets are aluminum, so I'm safe there.  Not sure about the clamp.  It sure doesn't look galvanized.  I'm guessing just zinc-plated.  If the rivets take well, I might just remove the clamp.
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Re: I broke my Pizza Party Pizzone ... and here's how I fixed it
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2017, 12:03:25 PM »
My understanding is that galvanizing is getting dunked in a molten zinc bath. Zinc plated goes on with electroplating and is thinner. I wouldn't heat either up very hot.

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Re: I broke my Pizza Party Pizzone ... and here's how I fixed it
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2017, 03:35:57 PM »
Given that the collar is a piece of stove pipe I guess I'm not too worried about how it handles high heat.  I'll get a temp reading on it the next time I fire my oven up and see how hot it gets.
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Re: I broke my Pizza Party Pizzone ... and here's how I fixed it
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2017, 06:36:26 PM »
To pull the dents out would have required cutting the rivets on the existing collar in order to get anything under the skin to pull the dents out.  It seemed a lot easier just to put a supporting collar on.  Took me all of a 1/2 hour to cut the new collar.

I guess. To me, seems easier to drill out the rivets, repair and then replace rivets with stainless machine screws.

Lots of options, good luck.


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Re: I broke my Pizza Party Pizzone ... and here's how I fixed it
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2017, 09:58:12 PM »
I guess. To me, seems easier to drill out the rivets, repair and then replace rivets with stainless machine screws.

Lots of options, good luck.

Sure might have been a good way to do it but I was concerned with getting the skin back to the same profile as before.  Now that I've cut my new collar custom fit I'll probably stay with this approach.  If it doesn't hold up for some reason I can always go to plan b.

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I broke my Pizza Party Pizzone ... and here's how I fixed it
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2017, 04:10:38 PM »
I think I would have pulled or worked  the dent out.  I don’t have the tool but drilling a hole would have allowed you pull the dent out with the tool. Drilling out the old rivets and taking it apart seems the best direction.  Even if you have to put pop rivets back in, that isn’t too difficult.  I realize that you want a quick and easy fix, but you also worried about appearance.  Even the option of calling some automobile dent removal place from ads on Craig’s List wouldn’t be too pricey.  The sheet metal that your car is made from is a lot thicker than this oven, and dents are easily pulled out of that metal.  Good luck.
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Re: I broke my Pizza Party Pizzone ... and here's how I fixed it
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2017, 09:03:47 AM »
Quote nsxbill but however you have make a good work

a couriosity, you transport the oven in the top of your car?
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Re: I broke my Pizza Party Pizzone ... and here's how I fixed it
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2017, 04:16:12 PM »
Quote nsxbill but however you have make a good work

a couriosity, you transport the oven in the top of your car?
Sounds like most folks would have gone the "drill out" route. Perhaps that would have been better, but I was also concerned that the material with the inner holes that the collar was riveted to was also displaced and getting everything back to original position might have been difficult.

With the custom fit collar that I cut I didn't have to deal with that.

I do not travel with it in top of my car.  It was just on top of the stand and I was rolling it by hand 

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Re: I broke my Pizza Party Pizzone ... and here's how I fixed it
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2017, 03:55:33 AM »
Sounds like most folks would have gone the "drill out" route. Perhaps that would have been better, but I was also concerned that the material with the inner holes that the collar was riveted to was also displaced and getting everything back to original position might have been difficult.

With the custom fit collar that I cut I didn't have to deal with that.

I do not travel with it in top of my car.  It was just on top of the stand and I was rolling it by hand

Brad, where did you get the wheels on your cart?  The only thing I don't like about my Pizza Party set up is the cheap wheels it came with...

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I broke my Pizza Party Pizzone ... and here's how I fixed it
« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2017, 11:12:57 AM »
Since you are in Italy, I'm not certain if where I bought them here in the USA would work.  This is what I used:  https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200199574_200199574   If you just google:  16" pneumatic wheel I'm sure you'll come up with some choices where you are.

Here is a link with some more specifics at reply 28:  https://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php?topic=42329.msg432043#msg432043 

Also, if you ever carry your oven, these carry bars that I made are one of my favorite things.  They work amazingly well for carrying the oven: 
Version 1 at reply 35: https://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php?topic=42329.msg433619#msg433619
Improved at reply 41: https://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php?topic=42329.msg449923#msg449923
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Re: I broke my Pizza Party Pizzone ... and here's how I fixed it
« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2017, 12:04:28 PM »
Since you are in Italy, I'm not certain if where I bought them here in the USA would work.  This is what I used:  https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200199574_200199574   If you just google:  16" pneumatic wheel I'm sure you'll come up with some choices where you are.

Here is a link with some more specifics at reply 28:  https://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php?topic=42329.msg432043#msg432043 

Also, if you ever carry your oven, these carry bars that I made are one of my favorite things.  They work amazingly well for carrying the oven: 
Version 1 at reply 35: https://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php?topic=42329.msg433619#msg433619
Improved at reply 41: https://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php?topic=42329.msg449923#msg449923

Thanks!  I am military so I can order from the States via  USPS.  Did you change your axel?  I measured today and mine is .80".  It looks like that bearing is .5.
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Re: I broke my Pizza Party Pizzone ... and here's how I fixed it
« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2017, 01:25:26 PM »
Yes, I ran a piece of 1/2" pipe throw the inside of the original axle.  I used aluminum but would recommend steel or rigid conduit instead.  Here are a couple close up pics.  The sleeves with set screws hold the outer axle from sliding back and forth
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Re: I broke my Pizza Party Pizzone ... and here's how I fixed it
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2017, 04:59:49 PM »
Some followups on this plus a couple other items on my Pizzone

1. Final repair on chimney collar with high-temp sealant.
2. I really used and abused my Pizzone with catering this summer.  Thinking of painting with high-temp paint.  Can't find any bronze colored paint.  What do you all think of black?
3,4,5.  These are the second purpose of my carry bars that I use to carry the oven by hand.  Drilled holes through the frame and bars and they function as great wheel barrow arms.  Best to pull it like a rickshaw so you can see where you are going.
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« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2017, 11:24:19 PM »
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