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Re: Pizza Hut Pan Pizza
« Reply #360 on: October 03, 2016, 10:00:24 PM »
What temp should the dough be after its done kneading and is ready to sit covered on the counter for that hour before the 24 hours in the fridge? Sorry if I missed this info if it was posted in the thread back there somewhere.. but, I'm planning to make this this weekend and I'll be using Petezaa's scaled version.. AND I'll be using my 14-cup Cuisinart food processor to make the dough. I'll follow the original directions to room rise in the pan for an hour followed by 24 hours in the fridge (at 39f in my case) followed by 2 hours back on the counter to come back to room temp before baking. Since I'll be using the food processor is why I was wondering what the ideal temp of dough should be after kneading. I don't think temp of water was mentioned, but would the rule of thumb to use ice water with the food processor apply to this dough too? One more thing please.. would there be any benefit to letting it stay in the fridge for 72 hours like NY, maybe with a reduced yeast amount to accommodate that long of a cold ferment?

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Re: Pizza Hut Pan Pizza
« Reply #361 on: October 03, 2016, 10:35:43 PM »
csnack,

I believe the instructions for the PH clone pizza you plan to make are set forth at:

http://www.pizzamaking.com/panpizza.php

However, another member who worked for PH discussed how the PH pan pizzas were made while he worked for them, including finished dough temperature, in the thread at:

http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php?topic=4067.msg33930#msg33930

It looks like you have a couple of ways to proceed. I also think that you could reduce the amount of yeast and let the dough cold ferment for a few days. However, that may produce a finished product that deviates from the classic PH pan pizza. But that shouldn't deter you at some point from trying a multi-day version.

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Re: Pizza Hut Pan Pizza
« Reply #362 on: October 04, 2016, 05:11:12 AM »
you rock pete thanks brother

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Re: Pizza Hut Pan Pizza
« Reply #363 on: October 05, 2016, 12:19:00 PM »
See reply 359 for my "quick version" recipe. This time I used Italian sausage, Margherita pepperoni, and black olives, Polly-o whole milk mozza, and a quick sauce with lotsa minced garlic sauteed in evoo, Tuttarossa crushed toms and Herbes De Provence. This time I will try to post pics. Wish me luck. Pics are my 14" well seasoned steel pan with 1 1/2" lip, second rise in pan, dressed,and  bottom crust.

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Re: Pizza Hut Pan Pizza
« Reply #364 on: October 05, 2016, 11:45:40 PM »
See reply 359 for my "quick version" recipe. This time I used Italian sausage, Margherita pepperoni, and black olives, Polly-o whole milk mozza, and a quick sauce with lotsa minced garlic sauteed in evoo, Tuttarossa crushed toms and Herbes De Provence. This time I will try to post pics. Wish me luck. Pics are my 14" well seasoned steel pan with 1 1/2" lip, second rise in pan, dressed,and  bottom crust.
Ever made a sourdough version of this? That's what I really want.

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Re: Pizza Hut Pan Pizza
« Reply #365 on: November 22, 2017, 03:02:56 PM »
My pan pizza didn't really brown at the bottom. I used a 480F hot oven put a pizza stone in the middle and heated all up for 1h. I took the cold big iron pan 0,4 inch (1 cm) with the pan pizza inside 2h before out of the fridge, to get room temperature. I put the iron pan on the pizza stone and after 10 min I had to take out the pizza, because it got very brown on top. I let the pizza 5 min in the pan, before I removed it. The problem was that the bottom was only very very light crisp. I needed more heat in the bottom, what should I do?
  • Don't use pizza stone under the pan (alternative grid)
  • Use a thinner pan?
I could heat the pan on cooktop before I put it into the oven, but this is "waste". Do you have any idea what I can do to get a more crisp and more cooked bottom? Additional I used a bit too much oil for my taste, but it was the original "medium size" measurement.

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Re: Pizza Hut Pan Pizza
« Reply #366 on: November 23, 2017, 12:31:38 AM »
My pan pizza didn't really brown at the bottom. I used a 480F hot oven put a pizza stone in the middle and heated all up for 1h. I took the cold big iron pan 0,4 inch (1 cm) with the pan pizza inside 2h before out of the fridge, to get room temperature. I put the iron pan on the pizza stone and after 10 min I had to take out the pizza, because it got very brown on top. I let the pizza 5 min in the pan, before I removed it. The problem was that the bottom was only very very light crisp. I needed more heat in the bottom, what should I do?
  • Don't use pizza stone under the pan (alternative grid)
  • Use a thinner pan?
I could heat the pan on cooktop before I put it into the oven, but this is "waste". Do you have any idea what I can do to get a more crisp and more cooked bottom? Additional I used a bit too much oil for my taste, but it was the original "medium size" measurement.
Next course of action would be to try a longer bake time at a lower temp - say 450 for 14-16 or so minutes w/ 180 spin in between. And possibly a lower oven rack if necessary. You find out if it's necessary by baking pizzas and dialing it in. But 480 for 10 minutes is generally too hot and not a long enough bake time for a 14" PH clone.

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Re: Pizza Hut Pan Pizza
« Reply #367 on: November 23, 2017, 12:36:25 AM »
Next course of action would be to try a longer bake time at a lower temp - say 450 for 14-16 or so minutes w/ 180 spin in between. And possibly a lower oven rack if necessary. You find out if it's necessary by baking pizzas and dialing it in. But 480 for 10 minutes is generally too hot and not a long enough bake time for a 14" PH clone.
A 14"x2" 14 guage aluminum dark anodized pan that has been well seasoned, and used in conjunction with the stone, works great for this style.

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Re: Pizza Hut Pan Pizza
« Reply #368 on: November 27, 2017, 01:24:22 PM »
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Re: Pizza Hut Pan Pizza
« Reply #369 on: December 28, 2017, 01:05:49 AM »
Pizza Hut's pizza is infinitely better lately.

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Re: Pizza Hut Pan Pizza
« Reply #370 on: April 19, 2018, 01:06:19 PM »
I believe the powdered milk just kicks up the calcium content. I use the same recipe, but my quantities for as single pie is 3/4 cup warm water with a tsp brown sugar, and a tsp IDY and 1 Tbsp evoo to proof yeast. First rise in bowl, second in black iron 14" pan. My vegetable oil of choice is corn oil. Somehow, that flavor reminds me of a Pizza Hut pan pizza taste.  After the second rise, I put on toppings and right into the oven, no stone, no 4 hour refrigeration. Don't have the patience! Comes out great everytime. I've tried 100% bread flour, 100% AP flour and a 50/50 mix. I just think the 100% bread flour has better flavor and texture.

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Re: Pizza Hut Pan Pizza
« Reply #371 on: May 04, 2018, 08:09:03 PM »
I've made so many Papa Johns clones and although I said I'd try to perfect it I'm totally sick of that so I'm  moving onto other styles  I want thinner NY style pizza and then a nice thick slab of greasy  pan pizza that was always a favourite of mine. 


I'm not sure how it will work in my oven. Basically my ovens heating element is not at the bottom, but the back.   I could never do a Papa Johns style on a screen because there was not enough bottom heat and the top cooked fast.

So I use a 3/8" steel that does a great job browning the bottom.  If I just use a pan and put that in the oven I don't think it will get enough bottom heat but maybe putting the pan on the steel would work? especially with a good quality anodised aluminium pan those things transfer heat so fast I have a bread pan made out of it.







Looking at these recipes isn't the salt way on the low side?  I recall Pizza Hut being very greasy and salty.



How much oil are people putting for a 14" and I mean in the pan not the actual dough?

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Re: Pizza Hut Pan Pizza
« Reply #372 on: May 05, 2018, 08:52:16 AM »
You are right about the salt. I forgot to mention that I added about a teaspoon of salt to my flour. As far as the corn oil, I use a couple of tablespoons to the pan. More than that makes it too greasy for me. A little evoo sprinkled over the top helps!

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Re: Pizza Hut Pan Pizza
« Reply #373 on: May 09, 2018, 04:07:11 PM »


Whats the deal with having it rise at room temp, then putting in the fridge? the instructions say roll to about 3/4" thick  then you let it rise to nearly 1 1/2" (isn't that the height of their pans?)   then you're putting in the fridge for 4 to 24 hours surely with all the yeast in the recipe  and that its risen so much already its going to end up like a mushroom?

I must be misreading this because it's all confusing to me.


I always figured you just put the dough in the pan and cook once its risen a little. The more you let it rise like a loaf, the thicker and more bread like it will be.

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Re: Pizza Hut Pan Pizza
« Reply #374 on: May 09, 2018, 06:20:15 PM »
Had this pop up in recommended videos today couldn't see if it had been posted before. 

1988 pizza hut training video 




Really counting the pepperoni... 4:25

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I'm interested in that fairy dust at 6:24   


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Re: Pizza Hut Pan Pizza
« Reply #375 on: May 09, 2018, 06:33:49 PM »
MadMatt,

The video you cited was referenced a while back at Reply 537 at https://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php?topic=35831.msg514063;topicseen#msg514063.

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Re: Pizza Hut Pan Pizza
« Reply #376 on: May 29, 2018, 10:47:08 AM »
My pan pizza didn't really brown at the bottom. I used a 480F hot oven put a pizza stone in the middle and heated all up for 1h. I took the cold big iron pan 0,4 inch (1 cm) with the pan pizza inside 2h before out of the fridge, to get room temperature. I put the iron pan on the pizza stone and after 10 min I had to take out the pizza, because it got very brown on top. I let the pizza 5 min in the pan, before I removed it. The problem was that the bottom was only very very light crisp. I needed more heat in the bottom, what should I do?
  • Don't use pizza stone under the pan (alternative grid)
  • Use a thinner pan?
I could heat the pan on cooktop before I put it into the oven, but this is "waste". Do you have any idea what I can do to get a more crisp and more cooked bottom? Additional I used a bit too much oil for my taste, but it was the original "medium size" measurement.



Use a Baking Steel, not a stone and lower the oven temp to around 425F-450F. Steel will radiate much more heat up through the pizza pan and browning the bottom. 

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Re: Pizza Hut Pan Pizza
« Reply #377 on: May 29, 2018, 10:52:51 AM »
Oh, and don't be shy with the oil in the pan... it's almost obnoxiously excessive for true classic Pizza Hut style.


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