Thanks again Christopher,
First I mixed 450g of bread flour with 3 tsp of VWG and sfted it together VERY well.
Then I used about 2/3 of the flour with 62% hydration, just mixed it and let it sit for 20 minutes. Then I added the balance of the flour and kneaded on the slowest speed for 9-10 mins.
It was very sticky at first, not that gooey kinda sticky but more glue like (without being overly dramtic...)
when it really came together it didn't have any dry spots, but even after a little hand kneading there is no getting a smooth surface, it seems to have developed a lumpiness throughout....
maybe it will work itself out in the rise.