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Offline andytiedye

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Solar Deep Dish Sourdough Pizza
« on: August 11, 2018, 07:49:07 PM »
I have been cooking deep dish sourdough pizza in a sun oven.
Lower temperature than is usual for pizza, and longer cooking time, but it seems to work for the extreme deepdish that I like.

I use a meat thermometer to tell when it is done.

Some toppings stuffed into "crust".

I can make pizza anywhere the sun shines.

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Re: Solar Deep Dish Sourdough Pizza
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2018, 08:03:59 PM »
This is a work in progress.

Dough:
1 1/2 cups active sourdough
3 1/2 cups bread flour
1/3 cup oil
1 tsp salt
A handful of fresh oregano
a few cloves of garlic
some pepper

I usually knead the dough in a bread machine, adding some flour or water as needed to get a ball of dough. May add chopped onions and/or mushrooms part way through kneading.

Sauce:
1 can tomato paste
lots of fresh Oregano
some fresh thyme
lots of garlic
chopped onions (optional)
some Port wine
salt & pepper to taste

Mix together & simmer for a bit

When dough is ready, sprinkle some flour in the pan and onto the surface of the dough ball (prevents sticking) and spread the dough out into the pan.  If it's a stuffed pizza, push whatever you're stuffing it with into the dough. Spread the sauce on top.
Add whatever toppings you like.
Bake 45 minutes at 350.
Add mozzarella cheese on top.
Continue baking until internal temperature reaches 190 on a meat thermometer.  Enjoy.

I have done this in a sun oven with temps as low as 280, still good (maybe better), just takes longer to cook.

It has been suggested that cooking time could be reduced by cooking the crust for a while before adding sauce. I have not tried that yet.  I am open to suggestions, this is certainly a work in progress.

Variation I did at Star Camp last weekend:  Since I forgot to bring extra flour to prevent sticking, I put a layer of thin sliced sausage on the bottom, before putting the dough in.

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Re: Solar Deep Dish Sourdough Pizza
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2018, 11:33:48 PM »
Holy moly!!

Deep Dish Sourdough Sun Pie!! 


How was it???

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Re: Solar Deep Dish Sourdough Pizza
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2018, 03:26:41 AM »
I think the sun pizzas are coming out better than the ones I have done in the kitchen oven.

Sure was a hit at the campout.

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Re: Solar Deep Dish Sourdough Pizza
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2018, 10:34:31 AM »
Andy,

Since you posted on the Sicilian board, I wasn't sure you were really trying to make a Chicago style deep dish pizza but using a natural starter or preferment. If the latter, you might take a look at the following:

https://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php?topic=2365.msg20625#msg20625, and

https://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php?topic=1585.msg14755#msg14755

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Re: Solar Deep Dish Sourdough Pizza
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2018, 09:15:38 PM »
Today's deepdish sourdough stuffed solar pizza:

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Re: Solar Deep Dish Sourdough Pizza
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2018, 09:22:01 PM »
When you say deep, you really mean deep!

Is that a wood fired oven in the background?
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Re: Solar Deep Dish Sourdough Pizza
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2018, 02:38:28 AM »
When you say deep, you really mean deep!
Very lively sourdough, rose a bunch.
Deep is how I like it.
Is that a wood fired oven in the background?
Nope. Not pizza related.


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Re: Solar Deep Dish Sourdough Pizza
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2018, 09:44:10 PM »
pretty cool idea!

If you're happy with it, then I'll stop listening to me!  I'd personally suggest less dough and more fire :D  .  For camping purposes, even a dutch oven or something?

but I do like the idea a lot.  Nice job.

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Re: Solar Deep Dish Sourdough Pizza
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2018, 11:57:07 PM »
Trying Kamut flour for the first time.

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Re: Solar Deep Dish Sourdough Pizza
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2018, 12:22:54 AM »


Andy,

Since you posted on the Sicilian board, I wasn't sure you were really trying to make a Chicago style deep dish pizza but using a natural starter or preferment.

l'm not sure where Sicilian ends and Chicago begins.
l assume it is more than just rectangular vs round.
(Rectangular would fit my sun oven better, actually, but my pizza pan with removable sides is round)

I'm not trying to clone a pizza I had somewhere. I have yet to find a pizzeria that makes a deep dish sourdough pizza.  (which is surprising to me, considering the popularity of sourdough in San Francisco) (well maybe not THAT surprising given the long cooking time)

pretty cool idea!

If you're happy with it, then I'll stop listening to me!  I'd personally suggest less dough and more fire :D  .  For camping purposes, even a dutch oven or something?

but I do like the idea a lot.  Nice job.
Lately I have been stuffing the crust and using a larger pan so less dough in relative terms.  I did some in a regular oven at somewhat higher temperatures (400-450F), and those overcooked everything else by the time the center was fully cooked.

I know everyone is using much higher temperatures, but I think most are making much thinner crust.

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Re: Solar Deep Dish Sourdough Pizza
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2018, 09:00:24 AM »
l'm not sure where Sicilian ends and Chicago begins.
l assume it is more than just rectangular vs round.

There really is no similarity at all. The dough is totally different; Sicilian is topped, Chicago is more 'stuffed,' ...
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Re: Solar Deep Dish Sourdough Pizza
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2018, 11:29:08 PM »
First pizza of Fall.
Sun oven, sourdough, stuffed. 1/2 kamut flour, 1/2 KABF.  Fresh oregano, sage, basil, and rosemary from garden. a little salt and pepper, some garlic. no sugar.  stuffed with spiced ground pork and turkey, scallions, and shitake mushrooms. Red bell peppers, sauce & cheese on top.

I suppose this is closer to Chicago style than Sicilian by now.

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Re: Solar Deep Dish Sourdough Pizza
« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2018, 04:07:47 PM »
Solar pizza season has ended here, had to finish yesterday's pizza in the oven, Sun getting too low in the sky.

There really is no similarity at all. The dough is totally different; Sicilian is topped, Chicago is more 'stuffed,' ...

Mine are stuffed AND topped with a TF well over .20.   By this point, I have probably diverged from any of the standard pizza styles.

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