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Offline grapsta

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does anyone know what style of Pizza's we make in Australia
« on: August 20, 2007, 10:22:57 AM »
I'm confused...we have 2 styles here - "Traditional" & " Gourmet"..i'm guessing what we call gourmet you call californian ???  ..not sure what our traditional are in USA language ?? someone here must have eaten pizza down under ?


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Re: does anyone know what style of Pizza's we make in Australia
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2007, 11:43:35 AM »
grapsta,

From my reading, pizza is not as popular in Australia as it is in the U.S., and the way that pizzas are priced and sold, and especially the way toppings are handled, appears to be different than in the U.S. However, there appears to be a distinction between basic everyday pizzas (“favourites”) and specialty, or “gourmet”, pizzas, which many independent pizza operators offer in order to differentiate themselves from the big limited-menu operators like Papa John’s, Pizza Hut, and Domino’s, all of whom have an increasing presence in Australia. For example, you will get a feel for the distinctions from this PMQ Think Tank post by “wa dave”, an Australian pizza maker (in Perth), at http://thinktank.pmq.com/viewtopic.php?p=18132#18132. If you read the posts before and after the one cited you will get a more complete view of the matter. See also http://thinktank.pmq.com/viewtopic.php?p=17571#17571 and the related posts.

I wouldn’t get too wrapped up trying to figure out the U.S. counterparts to the pizzas sold in Australia. U.S pizza operators will sell whatever they think consumers will buy, irrespective of the “labels” they use to describe their pizzas. Hence, you will see extremely wide variations in their pizza menus. The pizzas sold by California Pizza Kitchen tend to be viewed in the U.S. as a separate category of pizza because of the somewhat exotic or eclectic use of toppings, as you will note from this typical CPI menu: http://www.cpk.com/menu/pizzas.aspx. That style originated with celebrity chefs like Wolfgang Puck, Alice Waters (of Chez Panisse) and Ed LaDou. In fact, it was Ed LaDou who was originally hired by CPK to create their pizza offerings and is often credited with being the “father” of the movement (he had previously worked and developed pizzas for Wolfgang Puck). He now has his own place, Ciaoti Pizza Cafe. For his current menu, see http://www.caiotipizzacafe.com/menu.html. I think you will see from the latter menus that there are clear distinctions between the pizzas sold by most operators, including the big chains, and those offered by the Pucks, Ed LaDou and others of the same ilk.

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Re: does anyone know what style of Pizza's we make in Australia
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2007, 11:17:56 PM »
Thanks for your reply. The main reason I'm trying to work your styles out is so I know who to listen to  for tips / info. No point taking dough making pointers from someone who is making a totally different type of dough. Thanks again

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