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Offline megan45

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Unmalted Gold Medal All Purpose?
« on: December 05, 2018, 02:52:12 PM »
So I stopped by Sam's Club over lunch and noticed they have GM AP on sale ($3.98/12 Lbs). I always assumed GM AP is malted (and the GM website shows it to be malted), but the printed list of ingredients on the table reads:

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Bleached Wheat Flour, Niacin (a B vitamin), Iron, Thiamine Mononitrate (vitamin B1), Riboflavin (Vitamin B2), Enzymes, Foliic Acid (a B Vitamin).

So now I'm wondering if there a version of GM AP that's unmalted, or if malted barley flour get left off of the ingredients list (or maybe its the "enzymes"?)?

If it truly is unmalted I'll pick up a bag for pick up a bag to test in my Ardore, otherwise I'll keep looking for an unmalted flour.

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Re: Unmalted Gold Medal All Purpose?
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2018, 03:05:14 PM »
megan45,

This is a matter that arose recently and was discussed at Reply 278 at:

https://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php?topic=54120.msg549381#msg549381

As you will see from the above post, the enzymes used in the Gold Medal all purpose flour are fungal amylase, of which there can be a few forms usable in flour. The other forms of amylase are cereal and bacterial. The cereal form is malted barley flour. Apparently going from malted barley flour to fungal amylase is a fairly recent method used at General Mills, both at the retail and commercial levels. There is no reason for you to be concerned.

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Re: Unmalted Gold Medal All Purpose?
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2018, 03:46:56 PM »
I guess my real question is whether or not using GM AP is going to be a waste of time/effort/$ for high temperature (800-850), sub-60 to 90 sec bakes. I picked up an Ardore to take a stab at Neapolitan style pies, and the consensus seems to be that malted flour is not a good choice because it burns/produces excess char at those temps.

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Re: Unmalted Gold Medal All Purpose?
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2018, 04:31:02 PM »
I guess my real question is whether or not using GM AP is going to be a waste of time/effort/$ for high temperature (800-850), sub-60 to 90 sec bakes. I picked up an Ardore to take a stab at Neapolitan style pies, and the consensus seems to be that malted flour is not a good choice because it burns/produces excess char at those temps.

Megan45,

If you were to use your oven but at much lower temperatures, for example, to make NY style pizzas, you would be able to use the GM AP flour, whether it uses malted barley flour or fungal amylase. But at the higher temperatures you mentioned, you will want to go with an unmalted flour. I took a look at all of the GM AP flours on the professional side, and they are all malted. There are some AP flours that are organic, and often organic flours are unmalted, but that is not always true. For example, the King Arthur organic AP flour is malted. However, GM has a Gold Medal organic flour that is not malted that I have started to see in a few supermarkets at retail:

http://www.goldmedalflour.com/OurFlourStory/OurFlour/Organic%20Flour

You might also take a look at the unmalted AP flours from these sources that often sell at retail:

https://www.bobsredmill.com/organic-all-purpose-unbleached-white-flour.html

http://www.arrowheadmills.com/cpt_products/organic-all-purpose-flour/

https://www.hodgsonmill.com/collections/flour-meals/products/all-purpose-white-flour-unbleached

Finally, I should mention that GM sells a flour that is their version of a 00 flour but is not available at retail, but might be available from a professional source that uses that flour, although it will be a 50-lb bag. Here are the specs:

https://www.generalmillscf.com/services/productpdf.ashx?pid=50237000

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Re: Unmalted Gold Medal All Purpose?
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2018, 07:41:53 PM »
Thank you!

Disappointing that the GM AP won't work for high temperature bakes, but I expected that to be the case. I'll probably still pick up a bag for general baking purposes, though.

One of my coworkers has a Restaurant Depot card and has picked up Kyrol, All Trumps, 7/11 and various cheeses for me before. I'll ask him to check if they carry the GM or another 00 flour.

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