Author Topic: Preferment for Lehmann NY Style Pizza (Read 316489 times)

norma427 · « **Reply #1140 on:** February 02, 2012, 04:11:18 PM »

This is a different way I started making pinwheels from the preferment Lehmann dough at market. I used to cut a roll and then placed the cut pieces face-up on a parchment paper in a baking pan (so they would look like pinwheels), but started a few weeks ago to place the cut pieces different. There are still called pizza pinwheels, but don’t really look like pinwheels anymore. A regular preferment Lehmann dough ball is first floured, then rolled out with a rolling pin into a rectangular shape, then one side of the skin is brushed with herb infused garlic oil, then a little sauce is applied to the other side, pepperoni are placed on top of the sauce, then some mozzarella is sprinkled before rolling a cutting. The tops of the pizza pinwheels are then cut with a scissors, and brushed with the same herb infused garlic oil before the bake. I don’t have the pizza pinwheels uniform in shape yet, but am working on it.

I am also working on long breadsticks from the preferment Lehmann dough, but don’t have them right yet, so I will post about them later.

Norma

norma427 · « **Reply #1141 on:** February 06, 2012, 06:49:06 PM »

I decided Friday to make a little extra dough for tomorrow because it is supposed to be nice weather in our area. I have noticed before when making enough preferment for one dough ball, or even five dough balls, the preferment never bubbles the same as a larger batch of preferment over a three day period. I decided last Friday to take pictures today just to show how a large batch of preferment ferments in the same time as a small batch of preferment. It can been seen on the pictures that the large batch does get a lot more big bubbles than the smaller batch. I guess even a preferment does cold ferment better than a smaller preferment something like the mass effect in larger dough amounts.

Norma

norma427 · « **Reply #1142 on:** February 09, 2012, 08:25:49 AM »

Two pictures to show the one pizza made Tuesday at market.

Norma

norma427 · « **Reply #1143 on:** February 09, 2012, 08:29:09 AM »

I had wanted to take a video of slicing the preferment Lehmann dough pizzas on Tuesday but my batteries were too low. This is a bottom crust picture.

Norma

norma427 · « **Reply #1144 on:** February 09, 2012, 08:32:49 AM »

Two more pizzas from Tuesday.

Norma

norma427 · « **Reply #1145 on:** February 14, 2012, 10:38:28 PM »

Some heart pizzas made with the preferment Lehmann dough today. The little hearts sold well.

Norma

norma427 · « **Reply #1146 on:** March 07, 2012, 07:14:20 AM »

A few pictures of the pizzas made yesterday.

Norma

norma427 · « **Reply #1147 on:** September 14, 2012, 06:18:11 PM »

I was kind of disappointed that my customers couldn’t tell any differences when I changed from the preferment Lehmann dough to the regular Lehmann dough. I have been thinking about it some and decided to try out another preferment dough, but to try and cold ferment for 4 days. I don’t know if I am going about it right, but guess I will see what happens.

I have also thought over about moving sodas out of my deli case if a preferment dough gives me a better taste in the crust. I would need that space if I wanted to try and cold ferment dough balls for 4 days.

I know I probably didn’t go about this right, but used the preferment calculating tool to first get the preferment amount I wanted to try. The preferment amount I used was 25% of the total flour weight. I used an IDY amount of 0.25%. I mixed the preferment (poolish) and put it in my oven with the light on. It sat there for almost 2 hrs. and looked like it was ready to incorporate into the final dough. I then used cold water from my refrigerator so the final dough temperature might stay down some, since I want to try and cold ferment the dough ball until Tuesday. I never thought about the preferment being warm, so I really didn’t get a low final dough temperature. My final dough temperature was 78.3 degrees F. I think that was too high for a 4 day cold ferment. I probably should have used some ice also. I used 0.36 grams of added IDY in my final dough. I also think I should have used less IDY in my final dough. I did use 1% sugar in the formulation. Kyrol flour was used in the formulation.

I will see what happens, but don’t think this experiment will work out.

Norma

norma427 · « **Reply #1148 on:** September 14, 2012, 06:19:06 PM »

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Essen1 · « **Reply #1149 on:** September 14, 2012, 10:59:42 PM »

Quote from: norma427 on March 07, 2012, 07:14:20 AM

A few pictures of the pizzas made yesterday.

Norma

Norma,

Kick-ass pies, as usual! They look fantastic!!

norma427 · « **Reply #1150 on:** September 15, 2012, 07:32:47 AM »

Quote from: Essen1 on September 14, 2012, 10:59:42 PM

Norma,

Kick-ass pies, as usual! They look fantastic!!

Thanks Mike!

Those pies were made awhile ago.

I really don't know if I will be able to make 4 days cold fermented preferment dough balls in a market situation with all the swings in temperatures. I thought I would give it a go since the weather is getting cooler. I would like to do a 2 or 3 day cold ferment, but that isn't possible. Four days is a stretch, especially since I won't be able to watch what happens with the dough balls for two days.

Norma

norma427 · « **Reply #1151 on:** September 15, 2012, 07:37:20 AM »

If anyone is interested, this is the work sheet for the dough I made yesterday. The pictures of the dough ball are when the dough ball was about 21 hrs old. I really don’t think this dough ball will last until Tuesday.

Norma

norma427 · « **Reply #1152 on:** September 15, 2012, 07:38:12 AM »

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norma427 · « **Reply #1153 on:** September 16, 2012, 11:02:11 AM »

This is what the preferment dough ball looks like after about 48 hours cold fermentation, if anyone is interested.

Norma

norma427 · « **Reply #1154 on:** September 17, 2012, 12:39:43 PM »

The preferment dough ball that was mixed on Friday still looks okay at 12:05 pm today. Hopefully, it will still be okay tomorrow. I didn’t think about it when I formed the dough ball, but should have used the “poppy seed trick” to see how much it really fermented. I took the temperature in my fridge where the dough ball has been cold fermenting this morning and it was 41.8 degrees F.

Norma

norma427 · « **Reply #1155 on:** September 20, 2012, 08:13:47 AM »

The four day old preferment Lehmann dough worked out okay, but I think I added too much yeast to the final dough, or either my final dough temperature was too high. There was a bubble starting to form in the top of the dough ball before it was left to warm-up. The dough ball was then left to warm-up for 2 hrs at room temperatures. The dough ball was very easy to open.

The taste of the crust was very good from the 4 day cold ferment, but I didn’t think there was enough rim crust browning and there was a little to much bottom rim crust charring. The rim crust was moist. The bottom rim crust charring wasn’t noticeable when tasting the pizza, but I don’t like that much edge rim crust browning. Also the pizza wanted to bubble a little in the middle of the pizza during the bake. I don’t know why that was since the dough ball was warm-up enough. I also didn’t think the rim was brown enough in some places, even though I did add some sugar to the formulation.

Norma

norma427 · « **Reply #1156 on:** September 20, 2012, 08:14:32 AM »

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norma427 · « **Reply #1157 on:** September 20, 2012, 08:15:44 AM »

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norma427 · « **Reply #1158 on:** September 20, 2012, 08:16:22 AM »

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norma427 · « **Reply #1159 on:** September 20, 2012, 08:17:07 AM »

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